{"id":2169,"date":"2013-04-06T13:02:07","date_gmt":"2013-04-06T07:32:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/?p=2169"},"modified":"2013-04-06T18:55:22","modified_gmt":"2013-04-06T13:25:22","slug":"ensiferum-bassist-sami-hinkka-discusses-paganfest-new-album-more","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/2013\/04\/06\/ensiferum-bassist-sami-hinkka-discusses-paganfest-new-album-more\/","title":{"rendered":"Ensiferum Bassist Sami Hinkka Discusses Paganfest, New Album + More"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Interview by Avinash Mittur<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/paganfest2013-copy.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2170\" title=\"paganfest2013 copy\" src=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/paganfest2013-copy.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"388\" srcset=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/paganfest2013-copy.jpg 300w, http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/paganfest2013-copy-231x300.jpg 231w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Finnish folk metal giants Ensiferum released their fifth studio album &#8216;Unsung Heroes&#8217; last August via Spinefarm Records, and are now on the road in North America to promote this release. They&#8217;re currently headlining Paganfest America Part IV, with support acts Tyr, Heidevolk, Trollfest and Southern California&#8217;s very own Helsott. More adventurous and theatrical than any of their previous releases, &#8216;Unsung Heroes&#8217; presents the band in a new light and showcases their never-ending progress as musicians. Combine that with their fierce on-stage energy, and Paganfest becomes a must-watch show for any metal fan. The tour made a stop at the House of Blues in Hollywood on April 2nd, and our man not only wrote this killer <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/gig_reviews\/2013\/04\/03\/paganfest-iv-merrily-rams-through-hollywood\/\" target=\"_blank\">review<\/a><\/strong> of the show, but also sat down with bassist Sami Hinkka for a pleasant conversation. Read it below.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>So this is your second Paganfest, and also your second Paganfest tour with Tyr!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, actually Tyr are very old friends of ours, we have toured with them many times, even before I joined Ensiferum. They were in Russia and I was in a totally different band- I was so wasted and I saw Heri [<em>Joensen, Tyr vocalist\/guitarist<\/em>]. He was taking a leak and I went to go talk with him in Finnish. He was standing there and nodding and at the very end he said \u201cI have absolutely no idea what you\u2019re talking about!\u201d And then we started drinking! [laughs]<\/p>\n<p><strong>With this Paganfest tour, you\u2019ve had to share the stage with quite a few bands. Have you had to limit your set as a result?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah of course, it\u2019s a festival situation and in some venues you have strict curfews. It\u2019s a different kind of thing to have your own headlining tour as opposed to the festival thing. It\u2019s a nice challenge when somebody tells you that you only have seventy minutes to play. The more albums you have out, the more difficult it gets. It also makes it more interesting, when we do one show in one city we\u2019ll check out what we played there last time or what we played on the last tour. We try to change the set as much as possible because there are always hardcore fans that have seen the band many times, so we\u2019ll play a rare song for them also. We also like to have songs from each album. It makes creating the set very interesting.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/ensi1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2174 alignright\" title=\"ensi1\" src=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/ensi1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/ensi1.jpg 300w, http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/ensi1-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>I know the last time you talked with Metal Assault you were considering doing \u2018Passion, Proof, Power\u2019, the seventeen minute song from <em>Unsung Heroes.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, that would be something! Actually that would be doable, but we would need the female singer for that one because it\u2019s such an important element of the song. You can\u2019t put that kind of thing to a backing track. Someday- let\u2019s see when it\u2019s time for the twentieth anniversary! [laughs]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Has that been a challenge, tackling samples or acoustic guitars onstage? For example I know that \u2018Burning Leaves\u2019 from the new record has an acoustic intro.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, we have some backing tracks for some orchestral elements even though we have keyboards. Emmi [<em>Silvennoinen, keyboards<\/em>] only has two hands, so it\u2019s much easier to have big choirs played through the P.A. With the acoustic guitars, it\u2019s a matter of them being overweight on the flight. It\u2019s already really expensive getting the working visas, and the overweight luggage is like twenty euros per kilo. If you have like three, four guitars and an extra then it\u2019s thousands of dollars suddenly. It would be cool to have acoustic guitars so we could do \u2018Tears\u2019 and stuff like that. Maybe someday!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Well, I guess maybe that kind of thing would be feasible back home where you wouldn\u2019t have to fly the gear out?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, that\u2019s true. Having the acoustic guitars would also make the live set more interesting and add more dynamics. Let\u2019s see, let\u2019s see!<\/p>\n<p><strong>At some shows at home you guys have been known to do an ABBA cover&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Hmm, yes we have&#8230; That\u2019s another of our drunken ideas! [laughs] Let\u2019s see what we come up with next!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Are you all genuine fans of ABBA or was it more tongue-in-cheek?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It was a little bit tongue-in-cheek but of course ABBA have many good songs. I don\u2019t think any of us are real hardcore fans of them though. It\u2019s good pop.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"700\" height=\"394\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/FN5NpaSbVQU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>You guys also threw in a a cover at the end of <em>Unsung Heroes<\/em> as well.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, \u2018Bamboleo\u2019 by the Gipsy Kings. It was again, another drunken idea! [laughs] We had been talking about it for years, ever since I joined the band. We had some cover song ideas for <em>Unsung Heroes<\/em> and we were in the studio during the first weekend- Hiili [<em>Hillesmaa<\/em>, producer of <em>Unsung Heroes<\/em>] went home and we stayed behind and jammed with the cover song ideas. There were a few that were okay, but there was still something missing. When we made death metal out of \u2018Bamboleo\u2019, we took the structure and the chords. Of course, none of us speaks any Spanish so we listened to the song and wrote the lyrics as they are pronounced. Monday morning when Hiili came back to the studio he was drinking coffee and we told him \u201cCome here, come here! We have this crazy song idea!\u201d and we played the song for him. He said \u201cGuys, you have to go home during the weekends! This is not healthy, this is not normal, you\u2019ll get cabin fever!\u201d That\u2019s how we came up with \u2018Bamboleo\u2019.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I know Hiili is really into old school analog recording techniques, was that how <em>Unsung Heroes <\/em>was recorded?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Partly. Hiili is a really great producer because he\u2019s a musician himself. He\u2019s a really good drummer and he plays a little bit of every instrument and he has ideas for every instrument. He\u2019s always offering his ideas, but he never says \u201cwe <em>have<\/em> to do it like this\u201d. He always leaves artistic freedom for the band, as it should be. We would have fired him otherwise. [laughs] He has a background of really different kinds of music, I think that\u2019s a really big advantage. If it\u2019s just some guy that\u2019s done metal his whole life, then his views on music might be very narrow. A guy like Hiili is open to all kinds of crazy ideas. It was really cool to work with him.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/ensiferum_sami.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2173\" title=\"ensiferum_sami\" src=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/ensiferum_sami.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/ensiferum_sami.jpg 300w, http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/ensiferum_sami-200x300.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>I love his mix on the album too, I like how get to hear your bass playing like your solo on \u2018Burning Leaves\u2019.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh, that was a harmony type thing. When we recorded the drums the whole band was playing, the basslines are from the drum sessions. It was old-school, the drums and bass playing together. That\u2019s why there is a really different kind of groove compared to old Ensiferum albums, except the first one because that was also recorded old school style, and also generally compared to most metal albums nowadays because everything is about Pro Tools now. We wanted to have a more organic thing, no triggers and have more groove.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Now that you\u2019ve gotten to experience both sides, recording to tape and straight to Pro Tools-<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, that\u2019s how we started! That\u2019s how we made all the demos and first albums, recording to the actual tape. It was really nice kind of going back to our roots.<\/p>\n<p><strong>There have been a lot of folk metal bands coming up in the US last one or two years. Do you think they\u2019ve been doing a good job of carrying on the legacy that you guys and the other veteran folk metal bands established in the late \u201890s?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Hopefully! I have to admit, I don\u2019t follow the scene at all. In one of the interviews they asked, \u201cIs the hype going down?\u201d I have no idea because I can only answer on behalf of our band. The amount of offers we get for gigs around the world and the feedback from the albums have been really good, so at least from our point of view the hype is still going up. We are really privileged. Of course it feels really good to come to North America and see that there are a lot of new bands coming from this genre. That way this genre will evolve, if it\u2019s just the ten-fifteen bands that participate on these Paganfest tours then nothing new would happen. This way there\u2019s new blood and they will bring their own spice. It\u2019s only a good thing. Also, at least for me, it\u2019s really weird and humbling when someone comes up to us and says \u201cYou guys really inspired us to start a band\u201d. It feels really weird. You know it\u2019s only us! We\u2019re just a bunch of hippies from Finland making music!<\/p>\n<p><strong>So since this is Ensiferum\u2019s second Paganfest, what\u2019s been different about this tour compared to the first Paganfest?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, that was the first time we had ever done a proper North American tour. We did a short Eastern Canada tour before and since then we have been to North America many times. Compared to the first Paganfest, the experience of touring North America is the biggest difference. We didn\u2019t know what to expect and everything was totally new all the time. I really like touring here, the crowds are really good. We\u2019ve only had two shows on this tour so far, but they\u2019ve been really good. There were shitloads of problems, like most of our gear was lost. The very first show we had to borrow instruments, we didn\u2019t have backing tracks, our sound engineers didn\u2019t have their racks so a few hours before the show we had to change the whole setlist.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/ensiferum_new-copy-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2178\" title=\"ensiferum_new copy 2\" src=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/ensiferum_new-copy-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"386\" srcset=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/ensiferum_new-copy-2.jpg 600w, http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/ensiferum_new-copy-2-300x193.jpg 300w, http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/ensiferum_new-copy-2-466x300.jpg 466w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>That\u2019s right, now I remember. American Airlines lost your gear. Besides the first show, how have you been working around that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We got some stuff back for yesterday\u2019s show, but yesterday\u2019s show was full of other technical difficulties. When we arrived at the venue they were still building the stage. It was like an outdoor festival, the whole thing was delayed and there were other technical problems. I heard afterwards that my bass never came out of the P.A. system during the whole show and stuff like that. The crowd was crazy, they were having a good time so I didn\u2019t care. I had a good time also because of that! Today we got the last piece of gear, so today is the first day of the tour where we can put on a proper show as it should be. It\u2019s L.A., it\u2019s always been really wild here so expectations are really high.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links:<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/ensiferum.com\" target=\"_blank\">ensiferum.com<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/facebook.com\/Ensiferum\" target=\"_blank\">facebook.com\/Ensiferum<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/EnsiferumMetal\" target=\"_blank\">twitter.com\/EnsiferumMetal<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Remaining Paganfest America dates:<\/strong><br \/>\n4\/06\/2013 Studio Seven \u2013 Seattle, WA<br \/>\n4\/07\/2013 Rickshaw Theatre \u2013 Vancouver, BC<br \/>\n4\/09\/2013 Starlite Room \u2013 Edmonton, AB<br \/>\n4\/10\/2013 The Exchange \u2013 Regina, SK<br \/>\n4\/11\/2013 Zoo Cabaret \u2013 Winnipeg, MB<br \/>\n4\/12\/2013 Station 4 \u2013 Saint Paul, MN<br \/>\n4\/13\/2013 Reggie\u2019s \u2013 Chicago, IL<br \/>\n4\/14\/2013 Al Rosa Villa \u2013 Columbus, OH<br \/>\n4\/15\/2013 Soundstage \u2013 Baltimore, MD<br \/>\n4\/16\/2013 The Note \u2013 Philadelphia, PA<br \/>\n4\/17\/2013 Opera House \u2013 Toronto, ON<br \/>\n4\/18\/2013 Metropolis \u2013 Montreal, QC<br \/>\n4\/19\/2013 The Chance \u2013 Poughkeepsie, NY<br \/>\n4\/20\/2013 The Palladium \u2013 Worcester, MA (New England Metal &amp; Hardcore Fest)<br \/>\n4\/21\/2013 Gramercy Theatre \u2013 New York, NY<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Interview by Avinash Mittur Finnish folk metal giants Ensiferum released their fifth studio album &#8216;Unsung Heroes&#8217; last August via Spinefarm Records, and are now on the road in North America to promote this release. They&#8217;re currently headlining Paganfest America Part IV, with support acts Tyr, Heidevolk, Trollfest and Southern California&#8217;s very own Helsott. More adventurous &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/2013\/04\/06\/ensiferum-bassist-sami-hinkka-discusses-paganfest-new-album-more\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Ensiferum Bassist Sami Hinkka Discusses Paganfest, New Album + More&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2169"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2169"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2169\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2177,"href":"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2169\/revisions\/2177"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2169"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2169"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/metalassault.com\/Interviews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2169"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}